tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post6512370013706431989..comments2024-03-26T11:47:07.063+00:00Comments on BigLee's 'Miniature Adventures': Quickstain AlternativesBigLeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00960213980906190335noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-70235781674155292232017-06-28T02:55:22.763+01:002017-06-28T02:55:22.763+01:00Thanks for this page. Devlan mud is best for me to...Thanks for this page. Devlan mud is best for me too, followed by the Newton ink.<br /><br />Devlan is discontinued unfortunately but Army Painter strong tone is the closest even though slightly inferior.Braxenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09659777580502075412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-16035896319606781192011-09-23T19:35:49.969+01:002011-09-23T19:35:49.969+01:00Ian, welcome to BLMA. Glad you found the article u...Ian, welcome to BLMA. Glad you found the article useful. I've actually just finished off a 15mm Rifle Platoon using the Devlan Mud and I'm very happy with the results. <br /><br />I've been torturing myself over the decision for weeks but I think my experiments helped me choose the right product for me. I'll be posting pictures of the platoon in a few days time to show off the results.BigLeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00960213980906190335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-85030539108159369682011-09-23T19:18:26.502+01:002011-09-23T19:18:26.502+01:00Great Post. I am newly back to figure painting (an...Great Post. I am newly back to figure painting (and gaming real soon) and have recently started to use Army Painter on my 15mm Ancients. I love the effect though it still feels like cheating. Of the models it's the GW Davlan Mud for me. Instead of using a brush maybe try dipping and shaking off the excess, seems to work well for me.<br /><br />Thanks for the effortIanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17113835961977211021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-61025142237719098082011-09-20T19:42:58.424+01:002011-09-20T19:42:58.424+01:00Gotta be the devlan mud (griffin sepia and badab b...Gotta be the devlan mud (griffin sepia and badab black), you're right about the vallejo smoke, i've got some, but man that stuff is thick and if something can come straight out the bottle for me and gets that depth i'm after it gets the thumbs up. Finishwise Devlan mud then the vallejo, followed by the vallejo, then windsor, i can't even bring myself to think about quickshade, i see the upsides for folks speed obviously. But i have to paint my figures, that'll be the modeller in me.<br />Good idea and well covered, cheers Lee.TThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06864634690185960352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-70764837719735836232011-09-20T16:36:00.171+01:002011-09-20T16:36:00.171+01:00Good post. Thanks for taking the time to compare t...Good post. Thanks for taking the time to compare these options. I normally use the W&N, but I'm going to try a wood stain experiment.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15959234679802481723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-42340251519927841152011-09-20T04:11:32.471+01:002011-09-20T04:11:32.471+01:00From ya pics I prefer the Windsor and Newton Ink r...From ya pics I prefer the Windsor and Newton Ink result. It may have a higher contrast than the others but the lack of pooling on the arms etc is great. Higher contrast I think can often look better at 15mm scale than more subtle blends from light to dark.<br />Cheers and a great demonstration.The Kiwihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06829184068503627810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-52057932666841711402011-09-20T03:46:10.486+01:002011-09-20T03:46:10.486+01:00I've used W&N inks for years, love them fo...I've used W&N inks for years, love them for certain things. The GW washes have the edge for me for some full-figure uses (at least at 28mm) as the consistency is a little more friendly - doesn't run off areas too quickly or alternatively pool up too much, both of which the inks can. <br /><br />I like stain for big blocks of figures, especially of more earthy (brown/green/yellow/red) colors. I use water-based and brush it on. Much easier thinning and cleanup. Sometimes use straight, sometimes thinned with water and floor polish to keep it from being as dark.sonsoftaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466971377569066201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-42554278563238874192011-09-20T02:14:33.262+01:002011-09-20T02:14:33.262+01:00It could well be just the pics but the rough and b...It could well be just the pics but the rough and basic Before looks by far far the best to me. <br /><br />I have a bottle of Winsor and Newt raw sienna lighter reddish brown but have not tried it yet on anything. Also curious whether metal/plastic fig makes a difference.mekelnborghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02269195057608159822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-601759561841631622011-09-20T00:15:46.719+01:002011-09-20T00:15:46.719+01:00GW looks the best but I do like the definition of ...GW looks the best but I do like the definition of the Ink. I use the GW wash on 28mm, 1/72, and 15mm and I think it looks great on all of them. Although on the 28mm I need to paint a shade lighter color as it darkens it a bit.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01599440395205668599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-82693755972218245572011-09-20T00:01:50.339+01:002011-09-20T00:01:50.339+01:00The GW one looks best from the pictures.The GW one looks best from the pictures.Beccashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00742953626769861778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-66954758682679069582011-09-19T21:16:34.062+01:002011-09-19T21:16:34.062+01:00Always worried that I won't like the effects a...Always worried that I won't like the effects and waste all that time spent painting! As far as this exercise goes the Devlan Mud wins for me.Michael Awdryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07049982879661559305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-73152734714687698592011-09-19T19:20:52.606+01:002011-09-19T19:20:52.606+01:00Got to go with Army Painter. It's very expens...Got to go with Army Painter. It's very expensive for what it is, but a tin goes a long way (if you hammer the lid down after each and every use!).Justinhttp://modeldads.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-81162266013543881802011-09-19T19:02:13.481+01:002011-09-19T19:02:13.481+01:00Devlan Mud Wash for me. Doesn't look as stark ...Devlan Mud Wash for me. Doesn't look as stark as some of the others and looks a lot more natural. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who's used a general wash on Napoleonic figures as I have a growing number of Austrian and French which I'm tempted to wash ..... I'd need to be positive before swamping them in wash though!<br />Interesting post Lee. Very informative!Battlescalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13530786317286215390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-63667609893098188592011-09-19T17:59:13.947+01:002011-09-19T17:59:13.947+01:00I like army painter stain/varnish for mass blocks ...I like army painter stain/varnish for mass blocks of figures and find GW washes useful. Not so keen on Coat d'arms stain and I have used B&Q wood varnish.John Lambsheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04598696442104566164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-22151573993349291742011-09-19T16:44:12.939+01:002011-09-19T16:44:12.939+01:00GW followed by W&N for me...GW followed by W&N for me...Steve-the-Wargamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07077311120172727690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-6945482282683843032011-09-19T16:04:14.262+01:002011-09-19T16:04:14.262+01:00I don´t use em..did it once and the result looked ...I don´t use em..did it once and the result looked "unnatural"..I prefer adding the tones and highlights as I paint. As for the washes/dips...they are just woodstain anyway, but repackaged and with an expensive label. Apparently Ikea stains are the best.<br />Cheers<br />paul<br />PS, the Winsor and Newton Ink looks the best IMHOPaul´s Bodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07698894821198907112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1298399641711237003.post-41247809959097073142011-09-19T15:41:46.544+01:002011-09-19T15:41:46.544+01:00Since getting back into the hobby I've been us...Since getting back into the hobby I've been using Army Painter Strong Tone Dip as I am lazy and loved the results. I've now changed tack slightly by using AP Soft Tone and GW washes for a slightly less 'grubby' look :)<br />I don't think you can beat these dips though, as the effect is (IMHO)great for the effort put in and offers great protection to the model also ;)Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06230149195753516430noreply@blogger.com